Comments on: Trampoline Systems and Scala http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/ Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:19:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Zemian Deng http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/comment-page-1/#comment-454 Zemian Deng Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:35:26 +0000 http://www.drmaciver.com/?p=157#comment-454 Hello David, It's been some times since last post on this topic, and I would like to hear your update on your existing Scala project. So did you port to Ruby after all? How do you feel feel about Ruby now that you have spent some time working on it, and compare it to Scala? Is your company a Java shop? Did jRuby were ever considered in your project? Please share your experience if you can. I would be happy to hear it. Thanks, -Z Hello David,

It’s been some times since last post on this topic, and I would like to hear your update on your existing Scala project. So did you port to Ruby after all? How do you feel feel about Ruby now that you have spent some time working on it, and compare it to Scala? Is your company a Java shop? Did jRuby were ever considered in your project?

Please share your experience if you can. I would be happy to hear it.
Thanks,
-Z

]]> By: david http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/comment-page-1/#comment-359 david Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:53:35 +0000 http://www.drmaciver.com/?p=157#comment-359 We don't actually seem to have discontinued it yet, through sheer inertia. I think we might have ended up with a legacy Scala code base. :-) The Scala project isn't huge. It's been two developers and a couple thousand lines of code (there was a bit more code than that, but the project suffered from an abort and restart midway through due to some changes of direction). In terms of learning Scala, the other developer on the project thinks he hasn't really "got" the language yet. It was easy for him to learn to write code in it certainly, but getting to a point of writing idiomatic code (or at least "code that takes advantage of Scala's advanced features", regardless of whether it's idiomatic). I have mixed feelings on whether or not moving the code to ruby would be appropriate. We don’t actually seem to have discontinued it yet, through sheer inertia. I think we might have ended up with a legacy Scala code base. :-)

The Scala project isn’t huge. It’s been two developers and a couple thousand lines of code (there was a bit more code than that, but the project suffered from an abort and restart midway through due to some changes of direction).

In terms of learning Scala, the other developer on the project thinks he hasn’t really “got” the language yet. It was easy for him to learn to write code in it certainly, but getting to a point of writing idiomatic code (or at least “code that takes advantage of Scala’s advanced features”, regardless of whether it’s idiomatic).

I have mixed feelings on whether or not moving the code to ruby would be appropriate.

]]> By: Zemian Deng http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/comment-page-1/#comment-358 Zemian Deng Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:10:13 +0000 http://www.drmaciver.com/?p=157#comment-358 Hello David, I started learning Scala few months back, and I found it very productive and useful. Your blog posts and replies in Scala mailing list has definately been helpful to me. Thanks for the effort and I appreciated! It's sad to see your company discontinue Scala for work project. Just curious, how big was the project that started as Scala in your company? I mean like how many developers work on it? Was it hard to get other to learn Scala compare to Ruby? If you were the one making decision, would you continue using Scala? -Z Hello David,
I started learning Scala few months back, and I found it very productive and useful. Your blog posts and replies in Scala mailing list has definately been helpful to me. Thanks for the effort and I appreciated!

It’s sad to see your company discontinue Scala for work project. Just curious, how big was the project that started as Scala in your company? I mean like how many developers work on it? Was it hard to get other to learn Scala compare to Ruby? If you were the one making decision, would you continue using Scala?

-Z

]]> By: david http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/comment-page-1/#comment-291 david Wed, 14 May 2008 17:45:34 +0000 http://www.drmaciver.com/?p=157#comment-291 I don't agree. Ruby and Scala are both perfectly acceptable languages and we're not finding the gains that much greater than we would for Ruby (in some cases we're finding things Ruby would do better. There are trade offs both ways). So, given this and that we have a lot of Ruby expertise and a much larger base of Ruby code than Scala code, why would it make sense to port all the ruby code to Scala? (Even if I did agree, the chances of my persuading anyone else in my company of that are a snowball's in hell. But that's a separate issue) I don’t agree. Ruby and Scala are both perfectly acceptable languages and we’re not finding the gains that much greater than we would for Ruby (in some cases we’re finding things Ruby would do better. There are trade offs both ways). So, given this and that we have a lot of Ruby expertise and a much larger base of Ruby code than Scala code, why would it make sense to port all the ruby code to Scala?

(Even if I did agree, the chances of my persuading anyone else in my company of that are a snowball’s in hell. But that’s a separate issue)

]]> By: augustss http://www.drmaciver.com/2008/05/trampoline-systems-and-scala/comment-page-1/#comment-290 augustss Wed, 14 May 2008 16:30:51 +0000 http://www.drmaciver.com/?p=157#comment-290 Is is silly to have parts in Scala and parts in Ruby. So the right decision would be to move everything to Scala. To bad the real world rarely makes the right decisions. Is is silly to have parts in Scala and parts in Ruby. So the right decision would be to move everything to Scala. To bad the real world rarely makes the right decisions.

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